2017 Ford Expedition Brakes Problems

In March, 2024, as part of a mandatory Ford and NHTSA safety recall for a leaking master cylinder, we had our Ford Expedition serviced at Lugoff Ford, Lugoff, SC to replace the faulty brake parts. Ford Recall Reference: 22S11/22S11D - NHTSA Reference: 22V-150. At the time of the recall and replacement there was no indication of the master cylinder leaking. On [XXX] our brakes failed on a trip necessitating an emergency brake repair. The servicing shop found evidence that the master cylinder had failed, leaking brake fluid - the exact safety issue that the recall and repair in March 2024 was to fix. We are formally reporting this incident as a potential failure of a manufacturer's recall remedy. That a Ford-mandated safety repair failed in this manner indicates that the replacement parts or the repair procedures specified in the recall campaign are highly likely to be inadequate. This poses a significant risk to the thousands of other Ford Expedition owners who have had this recall service performed, as they may be unknowingly operating vehicles with a latent defect. We urge you to investigate the effectiveness of this recall and determine if other owners have experienced similar premature failures post-repair. This situation is unacceptable. A safety recall should increase a vehicle owner's confidence in their vehicle, not introduce a new failure point. We trusted Ford to correct a known defect, and that trust was broken. Repair due to recall miles: approx 150,000 Failure of brake system due to replaced part failure: approx 163,000 INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)

My wife was driving the vehicle. While attempting to stop, the brakes failed. The brake warning light came on and alarmed. She was not able to stop safely without using the parking brake. Brake fluid was gone and completely drained into the brake booster. My family was completely at risk. Thankfully there were no injuries or damage. The vehicle was towed to a Ford dealership. The dealership diagnosed it as brake fluid pumping from brake cylinder into brake booster.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V236000 (Service Brakes, Hydraulic); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The contact stated that a warning light indicating that the brake fluid reservoir was empty had illuminated within 10 minutes of adding brake fluid to the vehicle. Additionally, the contact stated that while driving and depressing the brake pedal, the contact noticed that the brake pedal pressure was reduced, and the vehicle failed to respond as intended, causing the braking distanced to be extended. The dealer was contacted. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The manufacturer referred the contact to the NHTSA Hotline to file a vehicle safety complaint. The failure mileage was approximately 135,000.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V236000 (Service Brakes, Hydraulic); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that while driving at an undisclosed speed, the brake pedal felt loose. A message regard the brake fluid level was displayed on the instrument panel. In addition, upon further notice, an abnormal oil consumption was noticed, and white smoke was coming from the exhaust when the vehicle was started. The local dealer was contacted. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 91,000. VIN tool confirms parts not available.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V236000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC); however, the part to do the recall repair was unavailable. The local dealer was contacted and confirmed that parts were not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue. The contact stated that while depressing the brake pedal, the pedal extended to the floorboard, with the message “Low Brake Fluid” displayed. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The failure mileage was 130,700.VIN tool confirms parts not available.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V236000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC); however, the part to do the recall repair was unavailable. The local dealer was contacted, and it was confirmed that the part was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue. The contact stated that the brake pedal would extend to the floor while depressed, and the vehicle failed to immediately stop. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer who diagnosed the vehicle and determined that the brake master cylinder and brake booster were faulty and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not yet repaired. The failure mileage was 60,000. VIN tool confirms parts not available.

brakes were functional at time of parking suv. upon reentering and starting vehicle, the add brake fluid light and alert came on. the brake peddle was non existent with feel. the brake reservoir was empty but no visual leaks from any of the brake calipers or lines were evident. after refilling the brake master cylinder to the full line. the fluid again drained to an unknown location with no visual leaks.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V236000 (Service Brakes, Hydraulic); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The local dealer was contacted. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was not made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure. VIN tool confirms parts not available.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition EL. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V236000 (Service Brake Hydraulic); however, the part required for the recall repair was unavailable. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The contact stated that while driving approximately 35 MPH, an alarm sounded in the cabin, and the “Brake Failure” warning light illuminated. The contact depressed the brake pedal, and the brake pedal went to the floorboard. The vehicle coasted to a parking lot where the vehicle came to a stop. The contact inspected the vehicle and noticed there was no brake fluid in the brake fluid reservoir. A person nearby assisted with adding brake fluid to the reservoir. The vehicle was driven to an Auto Repair Shop and coast to a stop. The certified mechanic noticed that the brake fluid reservoir was empty again. The contact stated that the brake reservoir was empty within 2 to 4 minutes. The mechanic confirmed that the brake master cylinder was leaking brake fluid into the brake booster. The vehicle was not repaired. The vehicle was towed to the dealer, whose diagnosed the vehicle and confirmed that the failure was linked to the recall. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was informed of the failure and referred the contact to the dealer. The manufacturer opened a case; however, the case was closed due to no updates on the availability of the parts. The manufacturer informed the contact that the part could be replaced; however, the parts would be the same parts on the recall. The failure mileage was approximately 227,000.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, while depressing the brake pedal, there was no resistance, requiring the contact to depress the pedal forcefully to slow down the vehicle, with the message "Low Brake Fluid" displayed on the instrument panel. The vehicle was towed to a local dealer where the vehicle was diagnosed, and the contact was advised that the brake master cylinder, brake booster, and the vacuum sensor were faulty and were possibly the cause of the failure. The contact was informed that the brake master cylinder, brake booster, and the vacuum sensor needed to be replaced. The vehicle was repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 65,744.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V236000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC); however, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that while driving at 50 MPH, the brake pedal was depressed and failed to function as intended. The contact stated that the braking distance had extended. No warning lights were illuminated. The contact called the local dealer however, the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The contact's husband, who is a mechanic, inspected the brakes and informed the contact that the rotors and pads looked normal. The contact stated that the failure persisted. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was not made aware of the issue. The failure mileage was unknown.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact received notifications of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V236000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC). However, the part to do the recall repair was not yet available. The contact stated that while driving 55 MPH, a deer crossed the road. The brake pedal was depressed down to the floorboard; the brake pedal felt soft. The contact was unsure whether there was a warning light illuminated. The vehicle came to a stop after a short distance. The driver’s and passenger’s side air bags did not deploy. The contact was not injured. No police report was filed. The contact drove the vehicle to the residence. The insurance company was notified. The local dealer was not contacted. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was not notified of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 140,000. VIN tool confirms parts not available.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact received notifications of NHTSA Campaign Numbers: 25V236000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC) and 25V572000 (BACK OVER PREVENTION). However, the part to do the recall repair on the rearview camera was not yet available. The contact stated that the rearview camera displayed a distorted image while the vehicle was in reverse(R). The contact stated that the failure obstructed the driver's visibility, which prevented the driver from safely operating the vehicle. The local dealer was not contacted. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was not made aware of the issue. The failure mileage was approximately 108,000.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while driving approximately 15 MPH, the brake pedal was depressed, and there was an abnormal whining sound coming from the front driver's side wheel well. The contact had to depress the brake pedal sooner to allow more stopping distance while stopping the vehicle. The contact stated there was no warning light illuminated. The contact stated that the abnormal sound occurred at speeds between 15 and 20 MPH. Additionally, the contact stated that the rear-view camera was no longer functioning. The contact stated that the image from the rear-view camera was distorted. The contact had received notifications of NHTSA Campaign Number: 25V236000 (Service Brakes, Hydraulic) and 25V572000 (Back Over Prevention). The contact called a local dealer and the manufacturer and was advised that parts were not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had advised that the recall for the brake master cylinder, parts were on a national back order, and that the remedy for the rear view camera was also not available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The failure mileage was approximately 120,000.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving at an undisclosed speed, the brake pedal was depressed; however, the vehicle failed to stop as intended. The contact used the parking brake to stop the vehicle. The contact stated that the brake fluid level was checked, and the brake fluid level was low but there were no signs of a brake fluid leak. The vehicle was taken to the dealer however, the cause of the failure was not yet determined. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The contact was informed that the repair was not covered under NHTSA Campaign Number: 22V150000 (Service Brakes, Hydraulic). The failure mileage was approximately 115,000.

Brake pedal goes to floor, all brake fluid is leaking into an unknown area.

On [XXX], My 2017 Ford Expedition suddenly lost all brake fluid in the master cylinder, where it drained into the Brake Booster. We had no braking function whatsoever. I filled up with another quart of brake fluid, drained into brake booster as well. The vehicle was towed to the local dealer in Lagrange, GA, where the work was completed on 7/8/2024. I was preparing to drive my family home to FL when we noticed the issue. We had to stay an extra night in the hotel. Thank goodness we had not been on the road and were only leaving the hotel. There is already a recall for the same issue, with vehicles made through 1/31/2017. My vehicle, by VIN, was made on 2/3/2017 at the same plant. Ford is refusing to acknowledge the issue. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)

Brake master cylinder rear seal failed and engine vacuum drew all fluid from reservoir into brake booster as vehicle idled in park. Both front and rear brakes were inoperable because one reservoir serves both systems and that reservoir was emptied by engine vacuum. Pedal went to floor with zero brake actuated. At highway speed this would result in a severe accident due to the rapid loss of fluid with no prior change in braking effort. Vehicle could only be slowed with parking brake. Ford dealer service department inspected and confirmed loss of fluid into booster. Brake warning light and low fluid message displayed as reservoir was drained by engine vacuum.

The contact owns a 2017 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving 60 MPH, the brake warning light illuminated. After parking the vehicle, the contact stated that the brake pedal was depressed to the floorboard upon restart the vehicle. Brake fluid was added to the vehicle; however, the failure returned soon after the brake fluid was added. Additional brake fluid was added to the vehicle and the vehicle was taken to the local dealer. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and referred to the contact to the NHTSA Hotline. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 152,000.

Brake Master Cylinder is LEAKING out the back of master cylinder and into brake booster, lost almost ALL of the brake fluid in short trip as soon as it started.. Its an Identical issue to current Recall 22S11 or 22S14 on many if not all 2016 2017 Expeditions. My truck was built at the same Kentucky plant that produced the trucks with this exact issue, build date [XXX] built in the same time frame the trucks have the issue . But Ford reports it as Not a recall.. Its Doing the EXACT SAME issue that is part of recall 22S14 and 22S11.. and is an incredible huge Safety Risk causing potential death to the driver or other motorist if the truck runs out of brake fluid .. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)