2017 Hyundai Santa Fe Complaint Log

OK FROM THE START FIRST LET ME STATE IVE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WHAT SO EVER WITH MY 2017 HYUNDAI SANTA FE LIMITED ULTIMATE 3.3L AWD NONE NOTHING SO THIS WAS VERY STRANGE BECAUSE IVE ALWAYS MAINTAINED THE VEHICLE OIL CHANGES EVERY 3000 MILES EVERYTHING. SO HERE WE GO ONE AFTERNOON ABOUT A MONTH AGO I JUST HAPPENED TO START MY HYUNDAI WITH THE DOOR OPEN AND WHEN I STARTED IT I HEARD A SOUND FOR LIKE 2 SECONDS. THE SOUND OF AN ENGINE THAT WAS LOW OF OIL THAT TAP TAP TAP I REALLY COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT I JUST HEARD THAT I MEAN REALLY COULD NOT BELIEVE IT, IT DOESN'T LEAK ANYTHING ITS NEVER DID THAT BEFORE. WHEN I GET THE OIL CHANGED THEY DON'T SAY IT WAS LOW ON OIL SO I'M VERY DUMBFOUNDED AT THIS POINT THEIRS NO OIL ON THE GROUND WERE IT GETS PARKED SO I DON'T KNOW WHY IT DID THAT. SO I CHECK THE OIL AND SURE ENOUGH IT'S LOW SO I FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF OIL IT TAKES AND PUT 1 AND THEN 2 AND FINALLY 3 KINDA WOUNDERING AND KINDA IN SHOCK SO TO SPEAK. WELL THE NEXT DAY I CHECKED THE OIL AND IT WAS STILL WERE ITVSHOULD BE AND HAD TO DRIVE TO SAN DIEGO FROM LONG BEACH WERE I LIVE AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE MADE THIS DRIVE MIND YOU. SO IM OFF NO LIGHTS ON DASH NO SMELLS NO NOISES O SMOKE THINKING COOL SO AFTER PASSING THROU OCEANSIDE I THOUGHT I'D GET SOMETHING TO EAT SO I DECIDED TO TAKE THE FIRST EXIT AFTER OCEANSIDE CAMP PENDLETON SO I GET OFF AND BEFORE I STOP FOR THE LIGHT THE VEHICLE STALLS WHAT THE THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE NOT THINKING ANYTHING BAD BECAUSE AGAIN NO LIGHTS ON DASH NO NOSES NO SMELLS NO SMOKE NO NOTHING. SO I TRIED TO START IT AND NOTHING TRY AGAIN AND NOTHING LIGHTS ON BUT DOES NOT WANT TURN OVER. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE NO LIGHTS ON THE DASH CAME ON THEIRS NO SMOKE NO LOUD NOISES OR ANYTHING BEFORE IT STALLS JUST NICE AND QUIET NO SMELLS NOTHING JUST THE CAR GETTING REAL QUIET. WELL I TRIED A COUPLE MORE TIMES BEST REGARDS ERIC

I OWN A HYUNDAI 2017 SANTA FE. I, MY HUSBAND, AND MY DAUGHTER ARE EXPERIENCING (FROM THE TIME OF PURCHASE & REPORTED TO THE HYUNDAI DEALER) A SERIOUS & DANGEROUS LAG WITH ACCELERATION. THIS HAS HAPPENED NUMEROUS TIMES, THE CAR HESITATES BADLY WHEN COMING OUT OF TURNS AND ATTEMPTING TO ACCELERATE...JUST SHORT OF COMING TO A STOP. IT IS VERY DANGEROUS WHEN PULLING INTO TRAFFIC AND APPEARS TO BE GETTING MORE FREQUENT. I HAVE FOUND SEVERAL FORUMS REPORTING THE SAME ISSUES. WILL HYUNDAI FIX THIS ISSUE?

1. STEERING= STICKING STEERING AND PROBLEMS KEEPING CAR STRAIGHT. DRIVING 2. NO WARNING CHIME FRONT PASSENGER SEAT. WHEN DRIVING

GO THROUGH CAR WASH MUST HAVE UNDER BODY SPRAYED TYPE OF CAR WASH . I LEAVE P1326 CODE VEHICLE GOES INTO LIMP MODE ALREADY HAD WIRE HARNESS REPLACED BY DEALER. DIDN'T CORRELATE CAR WASH UNTIL I RECALLED GETTING SAME ONE FIRST DAY IT OCCURRED WHEN I BROUGHT IN FOR REPAIR. KNOCK SENSOR HARNESS WHEN I CLEAR CODE GOES AWAY. LOTS OF PEOPLE SEEING IT HAPPEN DRIVING IN RAIN VERY DANGEROUS REDUCTION IN SPEED TAKES FOREVER TO ACCELERATE WHEN HITS NEW GEAR DANGEROUS.

MY 2018 HYUNDAI SANTE FE WAS PURCHASE 'CERTIFIED' USED FROM PUENTE HILLS HYUNDAI IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. ABOUT A YEAR INTO OWNING MY CAR IT BEGAN TO JERK AND FELT LIKE I WENT OVER A HARD BUMP WHEN I WOULD ACCELERATE FROM A STOP AND THEN BEGAN DOING IT WHILE I WOULD DRIVE UP HILLS. PUENTE HILLS HYUNDAI INFORMED ME THERE WAS A RECALL AND THAT THE RECALL WOULD 'SOLVE' THE ISSUE. AFTER I GOT MY CAR BACK, A FEW WEEKS LATER IT STARTED AGAIN. BUT HAPPENED LESS OFTEN THEN BEFORE. I RECENTLY TOOK MY CAR IN AND WAS TOLD THAT PUENTE HILLS HYUNDAI WAS ABLE TO RECREATE THE JERKING AND WOULD CALL THE EXTENDED WARRANTY COMPANY TO HAVE THEM COME CONFIRM THE ISSUE. WHEN THE WARRANTY COMPANY FINALLY CAME OUT, THEY UNSUCCESSFULLY RECREATING THE JERKING SOUND AND TOLD HYUNDAI MY CAR IS 'SAFE' TO DRIVE AND NOTHING IS WRONG WITH IT. HYUNDAI TRIED TO TELL ME TO TAKE THE CAR BACK SINCE THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO FIX THE ISSUE SINCE THE WARRANTY COMPANY SAID IT WAS 'SAFE'. I REFUSED TO TAKE IT BACK DUE MY SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF MY UNBORN CHILD AND WAS TOLD THEY WOULD KEEP IT AGAIN TO SEE IF THEY CAN RECREATE THE JERKING AND THEN CONTACT HYUNDAI DIRECTLY TO SEE IF THEY'LL COME CHECK IT OUT. BUT WASN'T GUARANTEED THAT THEY WOULD FIX AND OR BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE ISSUE. I HAVE CHECKED ONLINE AND SEEN THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE OWNING THIS SAME MAKE AND MODEL HAVE SIMILAR COMPLAINTS AND HAVE COMPLAINED TO YOU GUYS AND WAS HOPING THAT MY COMPLAINT WILL BE HONORED MORE THAN IT HAS BEEN AT THIS DEALERSHIP. THE JERKING MOTION HAPPENED WHEN BACKING OUT OF MY DRIVE WAY, ACCELERATING FROM A STOP SIGN, DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY, GOING UP HILL, OR BACKING OUT OF A PARKING STOP AND MOVING BACK INTO DRIVE.

THE OIL LIGHT BEGAN FLICKERING ON AND OFF AT RANDOM TIMES WHILE DRIVING. MECHANIC FOUND THAT REAR SEAL BROKE, CAUSING FLUID TO SLOWLY DRIP. HOWEVER, OIL WAS CHECKED AND STILL FULL. I REPLACED THE REAR SEAL, BUT OIL LIGHT CONTINUED FLASHING ON AND OFF. THERE WAS METALLIC DEBRIS FOUND INSIDE THE OIL. COME TO FIND OUT THE ENGINE NEEDS REPLACED.

WHILE BACKING OUT OF MY GARAGE I HEARD A POP AND LOOKED AT MY REARVIEW MIRROR, MY REAR WINDOW HAD EXPLODED OUT. NOTHING WAS NEAR TO HIT IT FROM INSIDE.

ON THE INTERSTATE, PRESSED THE GAS PEDAL AND THE VEHICLE DID NOT AND WOULD NOT ACCELERATE. I TRIED MULTIPLE TIMES. RPM WENT UP TO 5000 BUT SHIFTING THE TRANSMISSION INTO SPORTS MODE AND DOWNSHIFTING AND UPSHIFTING MADE NO DIFFERENCE IN THE SPEED OF THE VEHICLE. SPEED REMAINED THE SAME, ENGINE ROARED AS IF IN NEUTRAL. I PULLED OFF THE INTERSTATE, CUT OFF THE VEHICLE FOR SEVERAL MINUTES, RESTARTED THE VEHICLE, RETURNED TO THE INTERSTATE AND COULD ACCELERATE. THIS HAPPENED MULTIPLE TIMES IN 2017 AND 2018 BOTH ON THE HIGHWAY AND CITY STREETS. IN 2018, TAKEN TO PEARSON HYUNDAI AND COULD NOT BE FIXED BECAUSE NO ERROR CODES. AFTER A DANGEROUS, IDENTICAL INCIDENT ON THE INTERSTATE IN MAY 2019, TAKEN TO PEARSON HYUNDAI. THEY PERFORMED A TCU AND ECU SOFTWARE UPDATE MAY 21, 2019. THIS LATEST INCIDENT IS A REPEAT OF THE MAY 2019 PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS RANDOM AND UNPREDICTABLE BUT OCCURS ON BOTH HIGHWAY AND STREET SPEEDS. THE INABILITY TO ACCELERATE WITHOUT WARNING WILL EVENTUALLY CAUSE AN ACCIDENT. WE ALSO OWN A 2016 SANTA FE SPORT TURBO AWD THAT HAS NOT HAD ANY OF THESE ACCELERATION PROBLEMS. CHANGES WERE MADE IN THE 2017 MODEL YEAR TO THE ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION THAT ARE IMPACTING ACCELERATION.

WHEN I DRIVE GOING STRAIGHT AT ABOUT 40 TO 48 MPH ON ECO MODE OR ANY DRIVE MODE THE CAR JUMPS/ JERKS LIKE IT SHIFTS INTO A LOW GEAR AND THEN GOES BACK INTO A HIGH GEAR WITH NO HEAVY ACCELERATION. IF I HAVE IT ON CRUISE CONTROL AT 45MPH IT WILL KICK BACK AND FORTH OCCASIONALLY AS IF I WAS SLAMMING ON THE GAS PEDAL THEN SLIGHTLY ON THE BREAK BUT QUICKLY.

WHILE DRIVING (VEHICLE IN MOTION) THE STEERING WHEEL SEEMS TO STICK REQUIRING ME TO EXERT EXTRA FORCE TO "BREAK" IT LOOSE IN ORDER TO KEEP THE CAR TRAVELING IN A STRAIGHT LINE. I KNOW IT ISN'T MECHANICAL STEARING LIKE I'M USED TO BUT THE SERVO MOTOR SEEMS TO PREVENT ME FROM TURNING THE WHEEL WHEN I NEED TO CORRECT. I CONTINUOUSLY HAVE TO OVERCORRECT FOR THE STICKING/NOTCHY STEERING. VERY ANNOYING AND TIRING AND COULD BE A SAFETY HAZARD UNDER THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. FOUND SEVERAL OTHER OWNERS ON THIS SITE WHO IS HAVING THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM. I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS ELECTRONIC DRIVE-BY-WIRE STEERING MECHANISM. LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID, PLEASE LET HYUNDAI KNOW THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE. I NOTICE THIS MOSTLY WHILE DRIVING IN CITY TRAFFIC. I HAVE OWNED THIS VEHICLE FOR OVER TWO YEARS AND I'M EXPERIENCING THE STEERING ISSUE MORE AND MORE NOW. IF MOST DRIVERS ARE NOT TRULY PAYING ATTENTION TO THERE DRIVING AND THIS STICKING THIS WILL LEAD TO CRASHES AND DEATHS.

THE CAR IS SLUGGISH ON ACCELERATION. LOOKING UP FORUMS IT SEEMS THAT QUITE A FEW ARE EXPERIENCING THIS. I JUST READ "I JUST READ AN ARTICLE THAT SAID THAT HYUNDAI WILL BE REPLACING SOME ENGINES FOR THIS SAME ISSUE DUE TO A MANUFACTURING DEFECT WITH THE CRANKSHAFT PIN." ON A FORUM.

The contact owns a 2017 Hyundai Santa Fe. The contact stated that upon turning the steering wheel in either direction, the steering wheel would remain seized in the turning position without warning. The contact stated that he manually adjusted the steering wheel to prevent the steering wheel from remaining seized in the turned position. The contact had taken the vehicle to a dealer and an independent mechanic where the steering wheel was realigned; however, the failure returned after each repair. Brown-Daub Hyundai (3901 Hecktown Rd, Easton, PA 18045) was also notified of the failure but was unable to schedule an appointment. The manufacturer was not notified of the failure. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 1,000.

WHEN THE VEHICLE IS STOPPED, AND WHEN STARTING TO ACCELERATE, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I'LL EXPERIENCE A 1-2 SECOND DELAY OR HESITATION, BEFORE THE ENGINE/TRANSMISSION ENGAGE. THIS SEEMS TO OCCUR MOSTLY WHEN THE WHEELS ARE IN A TURNED POSITION. IT CAN BE A FRIGHTENING EXPERIENCE AT AN INTERSECTION, WITH NO POWER. THIS HAS OCCURRED APPROXIMATELY A DOZEN TIMES.

NOTCHY STEERING, FEELS LIKE THE STEERING WHEEL STICKS, REQUIRING YOU TO USE ADDITIONAL FORCE TO TURN THE WHEEL. THIS CAUSES OVER-CORRECTING WITH THE POTENTIAL TO SWERVING INTO OTHER LANES OR OFF THE ROAD.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME ENGINE NOISE FOR 2 MONTHS OR SO. . I THEN HAD AN OIL LEAK AND THE DEALER SAID THAT THE ENGINE NOISE WAS FROM CRANKSHAFT AND MAYBE A BEARING INSIDE. I HAVE 74, 000 MILES ON VEHICLE AND HAVE A 10 YEAR 125000 MILE EXTENDED WARRANTY. I WAS AT THE DEALER TODAY AND THEY GAVE ME THE NEWS ABOUT MAYBE CRANKSHAFT BEARING. THE HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY HAS A RECALL ON YOUR SITE ABOUT 2017 HYUNDAI SANTA FE HAVING DEFECT IN A PIN IN THE CRANKSHAFT THAT WEARS THE BEARING. THIS SEEMS LIKE EXACTLY WHAT DEALER IS TELLING ME. MY QUESTION IS , THE RECALL SAYS THAT HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY RECALLED 420 2017 HYUNDAI SANTA FE'S THAT WERE PRODUCED BETWEEN JANUARY 26 2017 AND FEBRUARY 13 2017. MY SANTA FE WAS ACTUALLY PRODUCED ON JANUARY 14 2017, WHICH IS ONLY 12 DAYS PRIOR TO THE START OF THE OFFICIAL RECALL PRODUCTION DATE OF JANUARY 26. HOW DOES HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY KNOW THAT MY VEHICLE WAS NOT PRODUCED WITH THIS FAULTY PIN IN THE CRANKSHAFT THAT CAUSES BEARING FAILURE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS WEBSITE AND I HOPE SOMEONE CAN ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO WHAT I MAY BE ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW.

ON DEC 5, 2019 AT 7:50 AM, I WAS STOPPED AT A RED LIGHT WAITING TO TURN WEST AT A CITY INTERSECTION. WHEN THE LIGHT TURNED GREEN, I ACCELERATED AND DROVE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF THE INTERSECTION. THERE WAS NO ONCOMING TRAFFIC, SO I CONTINUED AND WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A LEFT TURN WHEN I GOT HIT BY 2018 FORD ESCAPE. THE DRIVER RAN THE RED LIGHT AND HIT MY VEHICLE IN THE FRONT DRIVERS SIDE QUARTER PANEL, CAUSING VISIBLE DAMAGE TO MY FENDER, WHEEL, PANEL AND BUMPER (MORE DAMAGE WILL BE DETERMINED BY INSURANCE ADJUSTER). THE IMPACT WAS SO HARD THAT IT MOVED MY CAR, PUSHING THE FRONT END OF MY CAR TOWARDS EAST OF THE INTERSECTION. I HAD MY TWO CHILDREN AND MY DOG IN THE CAR. THE AIRBAGS DID NOT DEPLOY, AT ALL. THE OTHER VEHICLE HIT US HEAD ON AND THEIR AIRBAGS DID DEPLOY. MY HEAD AND UPPER BODY SLAMMED INTO THE DRIVERS SIDE WINDOW. EVERYONE IN MY CAR HAD THEIR SEATBELT ON AND MY DOG WAS TIED, BY HIS LEASH, TO AN ANCHOR IN THE BACK. THE IMPACT TO MY HEAD WAS SO HARD, I WENT TO THE ER AND THEY DID A CT SCAN TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO FRACTURES OR BLEEDING. I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A CONCUSSION DUE TO THE IMPACT. I AM ATTACHING PHOTOS OF THE SCENE AND THE DAMAGE TO MY VEHICLE.

I PURCHASED A USED 2017 SANTA FE AWD ON 11/06/2019. THE CAR FAILED TO START ON THE FIRST ATTEMPT AT A GAS STATION -- THE FIRST TIME IT HAS HAPPENED AFTER PURCHASING THE CAR. IT STARTED ON THE SECOND ATTEMPT, THE CAR DROVE SMOOTHLY TO THE DMV FOR REGISTRATION. ABOUT 1-2 HOURS OF DRIVING, THE CAR STALLED IN TOWN DESPITE ACCELERATING WITH RPMS GREATER 3. THE CAR BECAME RESPONSIVE ONLY AFTER STOPPING AND RESTARTING AT THE CURB. I NOTICED A STEADY CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON THE DASHBOARD FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER THE INCIDENT AND HAVE BEEN HAVING A JERKY RIDE EXPERIENCE EVER SINCE. A CALL TO BLUELINK CONFIRMED THAT THE CAR REQUIRES A THOROUGH SYSTEM CHECK INVOLVING THE POWER TRAIN AT THE DEALERSHIP. AN APPOINTMENT HAS BEEN FOR 12/4/2019 AND THE CAR HAS BEEN PARKED.

WHEN GOING SLOW AROUND CORNERS AND GIVING THE CAR GAS THE CAR DOES NOT ACCELERATE. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WHILE GIVING IT GAS THE CAR ACCELERATES VERY FAST. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN EVERY TIME BUT IT HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES PER WEEK. THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING AT SLOW SPEEDS ONLY.

MY AIRBAG LIGHT CAME ON AND STAYED ON JUST BEFORE THE 60K MILE WARRANTY EXPIRED. I CALLED THE DEALERSHIP AND WAS ADVISED TO BRING IT IN TO THE DEALERSHIP BECAUSE THE AIRBAGS MIGHT NOT DEPLOY IF WE WERE IN AN ACCIDENT. THEY SAID IT JUST NEEDED TO BE RESET. WELL, AT JUST OVER 62K MILES, IT CAME BACK ON THIS MORNING. A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH INDICATES IT IS A KNOWN PROBLEM ACROSS HYUNDAI'S ENTIRE FLEET OF VEHICLES. HOW HAS THIS NOT ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED?! I HAVE 4 KIDS AND CANNOT TAKE THE CHANCE OF THE AIRBAGS NOT DEPLOYING.

WHILE TURNING RIGHT OUT OF A PARKING LOT ONTO A TWO LANE ROAD, THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY STOPPED ACCELERATING FOR 3-5 SECONDS AS A TRUCK WAS BEARING DOWN ON US. THE POSITION OF THE GAS PEDAL MADE NO DIFFERENCE. THE ENGINE WAS RUNNING AT AN IDLE WITH ZERO RESPONSE FROM PEDAL INPUT. WHEN IT DID FINALLY ACCELERATE, IT LURCHED FORWARD AS THE PEDAL WAS PRESSED TO THE FLOOR. WE ARE ALSO EXPERIENCING WHAT COULD BE DESCRIBED AS A SHUDDER WHEN DECELERATING TO A STOP. IT TYPICALLY SEEMS TO OCCUR BETWEEN 20-12 MPH. IT FEELS AS IF THE ENGINE IS STUMBLING OR IT IS HAVING TROUBLE DOWNSHIFTING SMOOTHLY.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNED A 2017 HYUNDAI SANTA FE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE CAUGHT FIRE UNDER THE HOOD WHILE PARKED AND UNOCCUPIED. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS PRESENT, EXTINGUISHED THE FIRE, AND STATED THAT THE FIRE INITIATED AROUND THE BATTERY AREA. A FIRE DEPARTMENT REPORT WAS FILED. THE CONTACT MENTIONED THAT A NEW BATTERY WAS INSTALLED A WEEK PRIOR THE FAILURE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED AND DEEMED DESTROYED. THE CAUSE OF THE FAILURE WAS NOT DETERMINED. THE DEALER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE VIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 40,000.

I WAS DRIVING FROM KELLOGG, MN TO WINONA, MN AND I STOPPED AT LARK TOYS. WHILE JOINING MN HIGHWAY 61, TURNING RIGHT I HAD TO ACCELERATE. I WAS IN SPORT MODE AND VEHICLE ACCELERATED AND ALMOST STOPPED. LUCKILY NO ACCIDENT OCCURRED, I HAD MY 17 MONTH KID AND MY WIFE IN THE CAR. CAR AFTER THAT GAVE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WARNING AND IT WOULD NOT ACCELERATE. I CHANGED TO ECO MODE AND THEN IT SLOWLY STARTED TO ACCELERATE, BUT AT ABOUT 20 MILES AN HOUR IT JERKED AGAIN, BUT I PRESSED ACCELERATE HARD AND IT SUSTAINED SPEED. BUT IT WONT GO OVER 65 MILES AN HOUR. I SLOWLY MADE IT HOME. BUT I TRIED TO DRIVE AGAIN AND SAME ISSUE. CALLED HYUNDAI CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND THEY REFUSED TO ROCHESTER AS IT IS 46 MILES AND THEY ONLY SUPPORT 20 MILES OR LESS TOW. MY CAR IS STILL UNDER MANUFACTURE WARRANTY AND YET WORST SERVICE. I ALMOST GOT KILLED TODAY WITH MY 17 MONTH TODDLER

OVER ONE MONTH AGO, MY GPS VIEWER SHOWED A WRONG TIME. I RESET THE CLOCK AND EXITED THE FEATURE. THE CLOCK QUIT APPEARING ON THE SCREEN. AT FIRST I DIDN'T NOTICE IT. THEN WHEN I DID, I WASN'T ABLE TO ENTER THE PROGRAM TO SET THE CLOCK: IT WAS ALL DARK ON THE CHOICES. I READ BOTH MY MANUALS AND NOTHING IN THEM TALKED ABOUT THIS PROBLEM. I HAD SEVERAL FRIENDS READ THE MANUAL AND THEY COULDN'T FIND ANY INFORMATION TO FIX THIS EITHER. I WENT TO THE DEALER AND HAVE IT FIXED AND THEY SAID THERE IS NO FIX FOR THIS. THE SECOND TIME I CAME TO THE DEALER, THE TECHNICIAN ORDERED THE WHOLE HEAD UNIT AND THEY SAID I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE ORDER. IT'S ABOUT 4-5 WEEKS NOW AND I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. I CALLED LAST WEEK AND THEY SAID THERE IS NO ETA FOR IT. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO ANYMORE.

OVER ONE MONTH AGO, MY GPS VIEWER SHOWED A WRONG TIME. I RESET THE CLOCK AND EXITED THE FEATURE. THE CLOCK QUIT APPEARING ON THE SCREEN. AT FIRST I DIDN'T NOTICE IT. THEN WHEN I DID, I WASN'T ABLE TO ENTER THE PROGRAM TO SET THE CLOCK: IT WAS ALL DARK ON THE CHOICES. I READ BOTH MY MANUALS AND NOTHING IN THEM TALKED ABOUT THIS PROBLEM. I HAD SEVERAL FRIENDS READ THE MANUAL AND THEY COULDN'T FIND ANY INFORMATION TO FIX THIS EITHER. WHEN I WENT FOR AN OIL CHANGE, I FOUND OUT THAT THIS ISSUE WAS AFFECTING LOTS OF VEHICLES AND THEY SAID THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS THEY COULD DO TO ATTEMPT TO FIX IT. SOMETIMES IT WORKED AND SOMETIMES IT DIDN'T. MINE DIDN'T. NO ONE CONTACTED ME TO ALERT ME TO THE PROBLEM (SAID MAYBE A CELL TOWER ISSUE WHEN I WAS AT THE DEALERS). I HAVE TO ACCESS MY FITBIT TO GET THE TIME WHICH REQUIRES SQUEEZING THE SIDES OF IT AND SOMETIMES SCROLLING IT. NOT SUPPOSE TO USE YOUR CELL PHONE FOR SAFETY, BUT MESSING WITH MY FITBIT UNDER MY JACKET IS JUST AS BAD. WHY WEREN'T WE NOTIFIED. GOOGLE SHOWS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM FOR SOME TIME NOW. I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN AND MAY NOT BE USING CORRECT TERMS FOR THE GPS STUFF. IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE WHEN YOUR EYES AREN'T ON THE ROAD AS THEY SHOULD BE AND MESSING WITH YOUR FITBIT. YES I CAN INVEST IN A WATCH AGAIN, BUT WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO DO THIS? DOESN'T MATTER IF I AM DRIVING OR STATIONARY, IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!!

CURRENTLY 42K MILES, "STICKY STEERING WHEEL" OR "ZIG-ZAG" PROBLEM STARTED ABOUT 10K MILES AGO. DEALER SERVICE TECHS I'VE DEALT WITH SEEM TO HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS PROBLEM. AFTER VERIFYING THAT MY DAUGHTER WAS REALLY EXPERIENCING THE ZIG-ZAG PROBLEM, I LIFTED THE FRONT OF HER CAR SO THAT BOTH FRONT WHEELS WERE OFF THE GROUND. WITH THE ENGINE NOT RUNNING, SLOWLY TURNING THE STEERING WHEEL RIGHT AND LEFT WOULD REVEAL THE "STICKY" SYMPTOM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY AT SOME POINT THE STEERING WHEEL HANGS FOR SOME REASON AND THEN IT TAKES INCREASINGLY MORE TORQUE APPLIED TO THE STEERING WHEEL UNTIL IT BREAKS FREE. IF THIS HAD OCCURRED DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, THE RESULT WOULD BE A SUDDEN CHANGE OF DIRECTION. THIS BEHAVIOR IN THE STEERING SYSTEM SHOULD NEVER OCCUR, BUT SHOULD BE SILKY SMOOTH LOCK TO LOCK. THE ATTACHED IMAGE SHOWS THE SYSTEM FROM THE STEERING WHEEL TO THE BOTTOM OF THE CONNECTING SHAFT. I HAVE READ REPORTS THAT THE U-JOINTS IN THE CONNECTING SHAFT ARE THE PROBLEM, OR THAT THE MDPS (MOTOR DRIVEN POWER STEERING) UNIT IS THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM. IF I WERE WORKING THIS PROBLEM, I WOULD DISCONNECT THE UPPER U-JOINT AND RERUN THE STEERING WHEEL TEST. IF THE HANGING PROBLEM WAS STILL THERE, THEN THE MDPS UNIT (OR PERHAPS THE STAR SHAPED COUPLING WITHIN THE MDPS) SHOULD BE REPLACED. OTHERWISE, THE COUPLING SHAFT SHOULD BE INSPECTED FOR BINDING OF THE U-JOINTS. IF THE JOINTS ARE STICKING, THEN A REPLACEMENT SHAFT IS IN ORDER. IF NEITHER THE MDPS UNIT NOR COUPLING SHAFT ARE AT FAULT, THEN THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM MUST BE SOMEWHERE BELOW THE CONNECTING SHAFT. THIS IS A SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE THAT MANY OWNERS HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT, AND HYUNDAI DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE ANY DESIRE TO ACKNOWLEDGE OR TO EVEN ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. I AM A FORMER ASE L1 MASTER AUTOMOTIVE TECHNICIAN.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 HYUNDAI SANTA FE. THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DRIVING 45 MPH, THE PANORAMIC SUN ROOF SHATTERED WITHOUT WARNING OR IMPACT. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO MCCARTHY OLATHE HYUNDAI (681 N RAWHIDE, OLATHE, KS 66061, (913) 324-7200) TO BE DIAGNOSED. THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE SUN ROOF GLASS NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED HOWEVER, SUN ROOF FAILED TO CLOSE ONCE THE GLASS WAS REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE SAME DEALER WHERE THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE TILT LEVEL AND FRAME NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED HOWEVER, NO FURTHER ASSISTANCE WAS PROVIDED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.

WHILE IN MOTION THE VEHICLE EITHER BRAKES OR BACKFIRES. THE JERKING MOTION IS SO HARD THAT I THOUGHT I WAS HIT BY ANOTHER CAR. THE CAR CONTINUES TO DRIVE BUT ACCELERATION RATE SLOWS DRASTICALLY CAUSING NEAR MISSES AS WELL. THE TRACTION CONTROL AND DOWNHILL SHIFTING LIGHTS COME ON AND STAY ON UNTIL YOU TURN THE ENGINE OFF AND BACK ON. SO FAR THIS HAS HAPPENED FOUR TIMES IN BOTH NORMAL AND ECONOMY DRIVE MODES WHILE TRAVELING ON THE INTERSTATE/HIGHWAY AT SPEEDS BETWEEN 50 AND 70 MPH.

THERE IS A FEW SECONDS OF HESITATION WHEN TRYING TO ACCELERATE AT TIMES. FROM A DEAD STOP OR A SLOW ROLL WHEN TURNING, THE CAR WILL MOVE IN SLOW MOTION ONLY AND THE ANTI SLIP INDICATOR COMES ON LIKE YOU ARE ON A SLIPPERY SURFACE EVEN WHEN IT'S DRY. THEN IT ACCELERATES SUDDENLY. WE HAVE COME CLOSE TO HAVING SEVERAL ACCIDENTS BECAUSE OF THIS. WE HAVE TAKEN OUR VEHICLE IN OVER 5 TIMES AND THE SERVICE DEPARTMENTS AT TWO DEALERSHIPS SAY THEY CANNOT REPLICATE IT AND BRUSH US OFF. THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE SOMEONE GETS KILLED.

CAR DIED WHILE DRIVING ON ROAD. ENGINE KNOCKING. NO INDICATOR LIGHTS TO WARN ME THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. ENGINE FILLED WITH SLUDGE EVEN WITH OIL CHANGES. ENGINE KNOCKING AND FAILED.

OIL IS VANISHING FROM THE VEHICLE. FOR EVERY 1000 MILES THERE IS A PINT OF OIL MISSING FROM THE VEHICLE. THIS HAS BEEN REPORTED TO THE HYUNDAI MUTIPLE TIMES. HYUNDAI CAN NOT FIND ANY ISSUE WITH THE VEHICLE. THIS IS CONCERING BECUASE THE VEHICLE CAN BREAK DOWN ON A LONG ROAD TRIP WITHOUT CONSANT OIL CHECKS AND REFILLING DURING THE TRIP. HYUNDAI HAS YET TO REPLACE THE MOTOR OR RESOLVE THE ISSUE. NO OIL LEAK LOCATED IT APPEARS THE OIL IS JUST GOING MISSING WHILE THE VEHICLE IS IN MOTION.

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WHILE DRIVING WESTBOUND ON I-80 ON SUNDAY, JUNE 2, 2019, AT 2:33 PM THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PANORAMIC SUNROOF EXPLODED WITH THE SOUND OF A 12 GAUGE SHOTGUN. THE GLASS WENT FLYING AND CAME INTO THE VEHICLE. NO PRIOR DAMAGE TO THE SUN ROOF AND THE AIR TEMPERATURE WAS 64 DEGREES. WE WERE TRAVELING AT 65 MPH.

THE VEHICLE SHIFTS EXTREMELY HARD FROM A STOP AND WHEN IN LOWER GEARS IN MOTION. YOU PUSH THE ACCELERATOR TO GO AND IT SLOWLY RESPONDS AND THEN IT SHIFTS VIOLENTLY SOUNDING LIKE SOMETHING FELL OFF THE BOTTOM OF VEHICLE AND JERKS THE WHOLE VEHICLE AND PASSENGERS INSIDE. VEHICLES BEHIND US COME VERY CLOSE TO HITTING US WHEN THIS OCCURS AND THE VEHICLE HAS NOT MOVED YET AS NORMALLY EXPECTED.

MY CAR JUST TURNED OFF. WHILE I WAS DRIVING UNDER 15 MILES, IT TURNED OFF, THIS HAS HAPPENED 3!TIMES SINCE I GOT THE CAR. THE SEATBELT IN THE 2ND ROW BEHIND THE PASSENGER SEAT SOMETIMES DOESN'T WANT TO LOCK. THE DEALERSHIP SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO RECREATE THE PROBLEMS SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT THEY COULD DO ABOUT IT. I SPOKE TO THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE AND SENT EMAILS AND NO ONE CAN FIX THE ISSUES.

WHEN MAKING RIGHT TURNS, MY CAR SUDDENLY STOPS ACCELERATING FOR A FEW SECONDS. THIS USUALLY HAPPENS WHEN EITHER THE CAR IS STOPPED AND THEN I GO TO TURN, OR TURNING AT A VERY LOW RATE OF SPEED AROUND A CORNER. WHEN I PUSH DOWN ON THE GAS PEDAL TO GO, IT TAKES OFF ABRUPTLY OR WITH A SURGE. THIS IS CONCERNING, ESPECIALLY IF A CAR IS FOLLOWING BEHIND ME. I ALSO NOTICE IT WHEN STOPPED AT A LIGHT, GOING STRAIGHT ALSO BUT NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS WHEN I AM MAKING A TURN.

ON HIGHWAY AND ENGINE SUDDENLY DECELERATES, NO THROTTLE RESPONSE, WON'T GO OVER 40 MPH, ENGINE LIGHT BLINKS. IN FOR SERVICE 2 TIMES IN 2 DAYS FOR THE SAME ISSUE. SERVICE TELLING ME IT IS THE KNOCK SENSOR OR WIRING. CAR HAS ONLY 7950 MILES. CAMPAIGN #953 RECALL DONE AT 7400 MILE

CAN WAS SITTING FROM 7:00 PM ON 5/2 AND WE WOKE TO FULL ON FIRE FROM REAR OF VEHICLE AT 4:50 AM ON 5/3 - FIRE CO BELIEVES ELECTRICAL

I WAS MAKING A LEFT TURN ON TO A STREET GOING UPHILL AND MY 2017 HYUNDAI SANTE FE SPORT AWD ULTIMATE HESITATED FOR APPROXIMATELY 10 SECONDS. WHEN I PRESSED THE GAS I COULD NOT GET SPEED. MY TRACTION LIGHTS BLINKED ON AND OFF. I HAD TO FLOOR THE GAS TO GAIN SPEED. THIS IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. I COULD HAVE BEEN T- BONED OR HIT FROM BEHIND IF THERE WAS TRAFFIC ON THE STREET.

MY CAR WOULDN'T START HAD MY CAR FOR SERVICE. I WAS CHARGED A SERVICE FEE WHICH THEY WOULD TELL ME WHATS WRONG WITH THE CAR. I WAS ONLY TOLD THE BATTERY WAS AN ISSUE. THAT WAS REPLACE. THE PERSON WHO ATTEND ME DID NOT TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT GETTING AN OIL CHANGE OR ANY OTHER PROBLEMS IN FEBRUARY. WENT BACK IN APRIL BECAUSE MY CAR STOP RUNNING TURNED OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. WENT BACK TO THE SAME DEALER I NOT FIX CARS SO WHEN I GET SERVIVE FOR THE VEHICLE. I WOULD THINK SOMEONE WOULD TELL ME OTHERWISE BUT NO. I TOKE IT BACK I WAS TOLD THE VEHICLE DOESNT HAVE WARRANTY. THAT IT EXPIRED BUT IN THE SYSTEM THERE WAS NO WARRANTY EVEN RECORDED. NOW I AM STUCK WITH HARASSMENT CALLS ABOUT A VEHICLE I NO LONGER HAVE DUE TO LACK OF MAINTENANCE. I PURCHASE THE VEHICLE LAST YEAR IN JUNE 2019. I DIDNT HAVE THE CAR FOR THEN A YEAR.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 HYUNDAI SANTA FE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING AT AN UNDISCLOSED SPEED, THE VEHICLE DECELERATED INDEPENDENTLY AND STALLED WITHOUT WARNING. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE FAILURE RECURRED SEVERAL TIMES AND WAS TOWED TO MILLER HYUNDAI LOCATED AT (4455 VESTAL PKWY E, VESTAL, NY 13850) WHERE UNKNOWN REPAIRS WERE PROVIDED HOWEVER, THE FAILURE PERSISTED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED A TOTAL OF 6 TIMES BY THE DEALER. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED AND INFORMED OF THE FAILURE AND OFFERED MINIMAL MONETARY ASSISTANCE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 29,792.

ON MARCH , 19 2019 AROUND 5:00AM I WAS ON MY WAY TO WORK LIKE NORMAL. AS I WAS GETTING ON THE FREEWAY AT ABOUT 45 MILES PER HOUR MY CAR SHUT OFF WHILE DRIVING. I HAD NO POWER STEERING BUT I COASTED TO A STOP IN THE RIGHT LANE OF FREEWAY TURNED MY CAR BACK ON AND DROVE ABOUT 500 FEET AND THE SAME THING HAPPEN BUT THIS TIME IT WOULD NOT TURN BACK ON. I HAD AAA TOW MY CAR TO THEIR SHOP. 3/20/2019 AAA TOW MY CAR TO CARDINALEWAY HYUNDAI 2525 WARDLOW ROAD CORONA, CA 92882 SERVICE: (951) 271-3333 5/13/2019 - [X] I ACCEPT HYUNDAI MOTOR AMERICA'S GOODWILL OFFER OF COVERING THE OF PARTS AND YOU COVERING THE LABOR $1,100.00 JORDAN NATIONAL CONSUMER AFFAIRS ‪ (714) 965-3976‬ HYUNDAI MOTOR AMERICA 9/16/2019 - NEW ENGINE IS INSTALLED | CAR IS READY | I I PAY THE THE 1,100.00 AND PICK UP MY CAR. 9/17/2019 - BROUGHT THE CAR BACK TO DEALER. A LEAK WAS FIXED 2 SPARK PLUGS CHANGED 9/18/2019 - I WENT TO PICK UP MY CAR ON 9/18/2019 WHEN I TURNED MY CAR ON THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WAS

ON MARCH , 19 2019 AROUND 5:00AM I WAS ON MY WAY TO WORK LIKE NORMAL. AS I WAS GETTING ON THE 60 FREEWAY AT ABOUT 45 MILES PER HOUR MY CAR SHUT OFF WHILE DRIVING. I HAD NO POWER STEERING BUT I COASTED TO A STOP IN THE RIGHT LANE OF FREEWAY TURNED MY CAR BACK ON AND DROVE ABOUT 500 FEET AND THE SAME THING HAPPEN BUT THIS TIME IT WOULD NOT TURN BACK ON.

CARBON MONOXIDE INSIDE THE CABIN WHEN TRAVELING ON THE FREEWAY ABOUT 70 MILES AN HOUR

NAVIGATION SCREEN DOES NOT TURN OFF AFTER THE IGNITION IS TURNED CAUSING THE BATTERY TO DRAIN AND CAR WILL NOT START

WHILE I AM DRIVING AND MY CAR IS CHANGING GEARS, IT DOES FINE UNTIL ITS IN FOURTH GEAR. THE RPM WILL GO TO ABOUT 2,800 UNTIL IT CHANGES TO FIFTH GEAR. ONVE ITS IN 5TH GEAR THE RPM WILL GO INTO A "NEUTRAL" STATE AND REV FROM 4,700 RPM TO 5,700 WITHOUT ANY ACCELERATION. THIS HAPPENS WHEN ACCELERATING UP A FREEWAY ENTRANCE . I HAVE BEEN TO THE DEALERSHIP 3X NOW AND ALL THEY KEEP SAYING IS THE TRANSMISSION NEEDS AN UPDATE. AND THE ADAPTIVE VALUES NEED TO BE RE- LEARNED. I HAVE NOW HAD MY TRANSMISSION FLUID FILLED ONCE AND THEN I PAID TO GET A TRANNY FLUSH. AND ADADPTIVE VALUES RESET TWICE. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. I HAVE 38,000 MILES AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT THE LAST 15,000 MILES.

ENGINE STARTING MAKING A KNOCKING NOISE. BROUGHT INTO DEALER AND WAS TOLD IT HAD COMPLETE ENGINE FAILURE DUE TO BROKEN BEARING AND I WOULD NEED A NEW ENGINE. DENIED REQUEST THROUGH WARRANTY. ONLY AROUND 43000 MILES ARE ON THE CAR. HYUNDAI INFORMED ME IT WAS DENIED DUE TO OIL NOT BEING CHANGED PROPERLY AS EVIDENCED BY TWO AREAS OF SLUDGE ON THE INSIDE OF THE HOOD OF THE ENGINE. SERVICE RECORDS BROUGHT TO HYUNDAI SHOWING OIL WAS CHANGED WITHIN THE 7500 MILE AS INDICATED ON HYUNDAI'S WEBSITE AND OWNERS MANUEL.

KNOCKING NOISE UNDERNEATH THE FRONT PASSENGER SIDE WHILE DRIVING.

CAR COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN WHILE DRIVING AT A SLOW SPEED TURNING RIGHT FROM A STOP SIGN, WAS LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO PULL OVER TO SIDE OF ROAD. ALL ELECTRICAL/COMPUTER SHUT DOWN, ENGINE CUT OFF. RESTARTED BUT ENGINE SPUTTERS, FEELS LIKE IT IS TRYING TO SHIFT GEARS WHILE STILL IN PARK. IT WAS A VERY UNSAFE SITUATION. WAS NOT ABLE TO GET STARTED TO DRIVE HOME. ONE WEEK EARLIER I NOTICED THE COMPUTER ACTING UP WHEN I FIRST STARTED UP, BUT RESTATED AND DROVE ANYWAY (NO PROBLEM THAT TIME WHILE DRIVING).

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 HYUNDAI SANTA FE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE DRIVER'S SEAT MADE AN ABNORMAL SQUEAKING SOUND. THE SEAT LEANED TOWARDS THE CONSOLE AND SQUEAKED NONSTOP WHILE DRIVING. IN ADDITION, THE REAR WINDSHIELD WIPER DETACHED FROM THE VEHICLE. THERE WERE NO WARNING INDICATORS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO NAPLETON HYUNDAI (649 DUNN RD, HAZELWOOD, MO 63042, (314) 548-0956) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE VEHICLE'S COMPUTER NEEDED TO BE UPDATED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED; HOWEVER, AN APPOINTMENT WAS MADE TO SERVICE THE VEHICLE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 2,747.

I PARKED MY CAR PARALLEL TO THE CURB ON A CITY STREET. I MOVED THE SHIFTER FROM "DRIVE" TO "PARK". I DID NOT TURN OFF THE ENGINE BECAUSE I WAS ONLY GOING TO GET OUT FOR A FEW SECONDS TO OPEN THE DOOR BEHIND ME TO LET SOME SENIOR CITIZENS TO GET IN THE CAR. I RELEASED MY SEAT BELT BUCKLE AND PROCEED TO OPEN THE DRIVER-SIDE CAR DOOR. AS SOON AS MY FEET WERE ON THE GROUND AND MY BODY WAS OUTSIDE OF THE CAR, THE CAR STARTED TO MOVE IN REVERSE DIRECTION. THE CAR WAS MOVING FAIRLY QUICKLY BECAUSE WITHIN A SPLIT SECOND, I WAS KNOCKED TO THE GROUND BY THE CAR DOOR WITH THE LEFT FRONT WHEEL ON TOP OF MY LEFT FOOT. THE WHEEL PROCEEDED TO ROLL OVER MY LEFT ANKLE, LEG, THIGH, HIP, ABDOMEN, CHEST, AND FINALLY MY RIGHT UPPER ARM AND SHOULDER JOINT. THE CAR CONTINUED TO TRAVEL IN REVERSE BY JUMPING THE CURB ONTO THE SIDE WALK AND FINALLY STOPPED BY HEAVY BUSHES IN FRONT OF A BUILDING. UPON INSPECTION, THE SHIFTER HAD SLIPPED INTO THE "REVERSE" POSITION. BASED ON THE GRADIENT OF THE ROAD SERVICE WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING, THE REMOVAL OF MY FOOT ON THE BRAKE WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY ALLOWED THE CAR TO MOVE BACKWARD HAD THE SHIFTER WAS IN REVERSE WHICH WOULD MAKE EXITING MY WHOLE BODY OUT OF THE CAR WITHOUT NOTICING CAR MOVEMENT VERY UNLIKELY IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, PARTICULARLY FOR A 72 YEAR OLD MALE WHO IS RECOVERING FROM AN OPEN HEART SURGERY AND TWO BRAIN SURGERIES. THE SHIFTING MECHANISM AND THE ASSOCIATED CONTROL MUST BE FAULTY RESULTING IN THE "FALSE PARK" POSITION.