2020 Toyota Tundra Complaint Log

In a 2020 Toyota Tundra, 1794 Edition (60k miles), traveling at normal highway speed, the moonroof glass panel spontaneously exploded. There was no previous damage or modification to the moonroof panel. Panel explosion was extremely loud and surprising. Large pieces of glass were blown back onto the highway. If the shade was not drawn at this time, large amounts of glass would have also rained down onto the driver and passenger of the vehicle. Clear dash camera footage shows speed under the speed limit, and no impact from any sort of debris.

The contact owns a 2020 Toyota Tundra. The contact stated that while the vehicle was parked, the contact discovered that there was smoke inside the vehicle. The contact opened the front passenger side door and discovered that the front passenger seat was burned and had melted. The contact stated that the front passenger seat had caught on fire and extinguished itself prior to the contact discovering the smoke. The origin of the fire was from the front passenger’s heated seat function. No warning lights were illuminated. The vehicle was unoccupied during the fire. Neither a Fire nor a Police Report was filed. The vehicle remained at the residence. The dealer was contacted, and the contact was informed that the front passenger’s seat heater needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The contact also mentioned that the insurance company declined coverage since they deemed it to be a manufacturer's defect. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was unknown.

IN BACK CEILING LEAKING WORSE NOW...

The contact owns a 2020 Toyota Tundra. The contact stated that while opening the sunroof, the sunroof made an abnormal chainsaw sound. The message "Window Open" was displayed. The contact stated that the sunroof was opening and closing independently. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer, where it was diagnosed, and determined that the cables had seized, and the sunroof glass was stressed. The dealer linked the failure to Technical Service Bulletin: 004220. The contact stated that the window failed to close. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was contacted and confirmed that there was no warranty coverage or Goodwill assistance for the repair. The manufacturer referred the contact to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was approximately 46,000. The VIN was not available.

BODY TOP CELING IS LEAKING.. TOYOTA TRY TO COST ME OVER ONE THOUSAND I CANT AFFORD.. I SEE LOT OF COMMON RECALL FROM OLD TUNDRA HAVE SAME PROBLEM. I THINK TOYOTA IS RESPONBILE TO FIX...

It happend today .. I notice while I Cleaned .....back seat ceiling leaking . it seem come from third brake light it no recall on list..

The contact owns a 2020 Toyota Tundra. The contact stated that on several occasions while driving at various speeds, the "Pre-Collision System Failure” warning light and icon were illuminated. Additionally, the message "See Dealer" was displayed. The contact also stated that the rear passenger’s side wheel locked up intermittently. The check engine warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the residence where the contact disconnected the battery, cleaned the cameras, and allowed the ECU to reset; however, the failure persisted. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 2,550.

Spontaneous explosion of sunroof, under normal driving status, pictures were taken, the toyota deealer has replaced and repaired at my cost, I have filed an insurance claim with USAA and uploaded bill and pictures, The shattered glass could have entered the cab but did not. No warning lights or other symptoms appeared before the incident.

The sunroof shattered while driving down the freeway. No vehicles near or overpasses near. The shade was closed so the glass fell on it not on my head or passengers that could have been present. Sounded like a loud pop. Then I heard wind noise. The glass is blown upward, not downward. I am 40 year auto technician and own my own shop. Its my personal truck I bought new. Has never had any issues at all. This is a defect of some sort. My thought is, since I never use it. The seals aroung the glass bound in the roof opening, thus binding it where it finally flexed and shattered.

The contact owns a 2020 Toyota Tundra. The contact stated while driving at an undisclosed speed, the vehicle inadvertently lost motive power. The contact was able to pull to the shoulder of the roadway, where the vehicle failed to restart. The check engine and traction control warning lights were illuminated. The vehicle was not taken to the dealer or an independent mechanic. The vehicle was not repaired. After investigating the failure, the contact related the failure to NHTSA Campaign Number: 20V682000 (Fuel System, Gasoline) however, the VIN was not included. The manufacturer was not notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 34,000.

Driving on the highway and the sunroof spontaneously exploded — portions of glass traveling up and out of the vehicle, with some falling into the sunshade. Skies were clear with temperatures around 25 degrees Fahrenheit. There were no overpasses or other structure from which debris could have fallen, nor could it have come from another vehicle.

I was driving in a 25 MPH zone approaching a red light preparing to stop. I had increased the pressure on my brake pedal and then my foot slipped of the pedal just seconds before I ran into a truck that was stopped at the red light. After further investigation I found out that the brake pedal pad has been substituted by Toyota Manufacturing. My 2020 Tundra was purchased new and has 8,800 miles on it. The petal pad is made from a PVC plastic material as stated on the bottom of the pad. There are no part #s on the pad which is suspicious that this is not a Toyota pad. The PVC material is very slippery, especially if the surface was wet. Come to find out that my 2023 RX 350 has the same brake pad. Both of these pedal pads will be replaced immediately from Toyota. Please Note. I could not upload any of the documents that you had requested. Something is corrupted with the web page that asks for upload files??????

Can not fuel truck normally. Gas stops pumping after 2secs and have confirmed the issues with multiple gas stations.

NOTE: Toyota has confirmed this issue, but is unable to resolve this. When the SOS button is pressed, the DCM module is supposed to send the proper VIN number and location to the call center. The call center does not receive the proper VIN number and pulls up the wrong person / location. In my case, if an emergency occurred, they would send emergency assistance to a vehicle located in another state entirely. This is not because the wrong owner is assigned to their system. They can find my vehicle VIN with the proper owner information in their system. The issue is that the DCM module (or other system) is actually sending the wrong VIN to their system. The Toyota SOS call center says to see the dealer and the dealer says they are unable to fix this. If this is not isolated to just my vehicle, this could cause a loss of life if emergency assistance never arrives at the proper vehicle location.

The headrests on the seats slip out of place very easily. It is available for inspection on request. In case of accident, the headrests may fly off the seat very easily, with failure to prevent whiplash injury. The problem has not been confirmed by a dealer or service center. The vehicle has not been inspected by anyone but me, the owner. There are no warning lamps, messages, or other symptoms of the problem. The problem was there when I bought the vehicle in 2022.

was struck in front right corner of truck and air bags did not deploy or the automatic braking system did not respond causing me to be thrown in to rearview mirror and breaking the windshiled and causing body harm to my head and spine

The contact owns a 2020 Toyota Tundra. The contact stated while driving approximately 65 MPH, the TPMS warning light illuminated. The contact had taken the vehicle to a local dealer where it was diagnosed and determined that the tire pressure sensors had been mismatched on the vehicle due to the wheels being replaced. The contact had been advised that the dealer would not replace the sensors with the correct parts. The vehicle had not been repaired. The manufacturer had been informed of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 14,900. The consumer stated Bell Ford Toyota agreed to refund $750 and replace and reset all four tire sensors.

This has happened twice now. 1st occurs on the DC beltway in VA HOV lanes, outer loop just past Tysons Corner while going 70+ MPH in the lane with no vehicles around the collision warning system and break automatically alerted , sensor indicated and dash board flashed BREAK. It resolved on its own. This was in august on a hot sunny day, no rain, no fog. The second occurrence just happened two weeks ago. It was sunny, 55-65 degrees, 35-49 PMH approx 3 vehicles back while turning south from rote 27 in mount airy maryland onto Penn shop road, the vehicle did the same thing. Indicated I was going to crash, applied the breaks automatically and almost caused an accident with a vehicle traveling behind me. First time I thought was a fluke- second time- no. Will be sending to dealer. Vehicle has less than 25k. 2020, Calvary blue, 4x4, shortened, crew max.

Sun roof glass shattered

Vehicle stalled and lost power at approximately 45 mph. Warning lights activated and "Not ready to drive" message was displayed. Vehicle has had 3 other similar episodes all resulting in the vehicle losing power at high speed. Vehicle was towed to local Toyota service dept. where they said it generated a code for rough idling - low fuel. They did no repairs and offered no explanation. Three miles from the dealership the Tundra died in traffic. The safety of my family was certainly at stake and had my wife been driving the vehicle she likely couldn't have steered the vehicle to safety. These are not low speed failures, but rather high speeds.

Breaks and rotors and caliber broke 2 times and the car is brand new, it cost me over 2400. Bought the truck with 0miles- have all paper work.

Return for modification

The contact owns a 2020 Toyota Tundra. The contact received notification of NHTSA campaign number 21V688000 (Exterior Lighting, Electric System) however, the part to do the recall repair was unavailable. The local dealer was contacted, and it was confirmed that the part was not yet available. The contact stated that the manufacturer had exceeded a reasonable amount of time for the recall repair. The manufacturer was made aware of the issue. The contact had not experienced a failure. VIN tool confirms parts are not available.

Battery dead, truck won’t start and won’t charge battery.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2020 TOYOTA TUNDRA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING BETWEEN 55 TO 75 MPH, THE STEERING WHEEL AND VEHICLE SEVERELY SHOOK AND VIBRATED. EVENTUALLY THE FAILURE STARTED OCCURRING WHILE DRIVING AT VERY SLOW SPEEDS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE LOCAL DEALER AUTONATION TOYOTA WESTON LOCATED AT 4050 WESTON RD, DAVIE, FL 33331 WHO REPLACED THE FRONT PASSENGER'S SIDE SHOCK ABSORBER, PERFORMED A FRONT-END ALIGNMENT AND BALANCED THE TIRES HOWEVER, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 600.

I bought a 2020 Tundra in mid year of 2020. By December 2020 I started to notice a strong vibration in the steering and from the front end between the low speeds of 20-30 mph and between 60-70 mph. The hotter the vehicle gets the more vibration occurs. Now my alignment seems off and curves to the left when trying to drive straight. I have taken it in to Alamo Toyota and Red McCombs in San Antonio on many occasions with similar problems but all they are doing is balancing and rotation of tires. I have sent the dealership videos of the vibration but they indicate it’s normal. This certainly does not appear normal and is now more of a safety issue. Not sure what else to do!

FUEL PUMP RUNNING WHILE ENGINE IS OFF AND KEY IS TURNED OFF

I ACCELERATED FROM A STOP MAKING A RIGHT TURN IN A NORMAL MANNER TO KEEP SAFELY IN FRONT OF ONCOMING TRAFFIC, I HAD NO POWER ALTHOUGH I KEPT PUSHING THE ACCELERATOR. MULTIPLE LIGHTS FLASHED ON THE DASH. I COASTED TO THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD. AFTER I STOPPED, ALL THE LIGHTS ON THE DASH HAD GONE OUT BUT THE ENGINE WAS STILL RUNNING. IT RESPONDED NORMALLY AFTER THAT. DEALERSHIP SAID A COMMUNICATION CODE SHOWED BUT WAS NOT RELATED TO MY ISSUE. I HAD THREE OTHER "LOSS OF POWER INCIDENTS" SINCE ALL AT LOW SPEED, EITHER STARTING FROM A STOP OR ATTEMPTING ACCELERATION AFTER A TURN. THE YELLOW TRIANGLE FLASHED THOSE TIMES BUT TRAFFIC DID NOT ALLOW ME TO KEEP PUSHING ON ACCELERATOR. AFTER A SHORT COAST POWER RETURNED. DEALERSHIP REPORTED NO CODE. EXPERIENCE SIMILAR TO DESCRIPTION OF BEHAVIOR OF VEHICLES IN TOYOTA FUEL PUMP RECALL. I BELIEVE IT IS THE FUEL PUMP. DEALERSHIP AND TOYOTA CUSTOMER SERVICE TELL ME I MUST DRIVE IT UNTIL IT "FAILS" AND SHOWS A CODE. SAFETY ISSUE, ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.

CAR WILL NOT START IN HOT WEATHER (115F+). THIS IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. BOTH TIMES I GOT STUCK IN 115-117F WEATHER OUTDOOR. TOYOTA DEALER SAY THEY CAN'T REPLICATE ISSUE AS THERE NEEDS TO BE A 115F+ WEATHER.

I BOUGHT A NEW 2020 TOYOTA TUNDRA 4X4 CREWMAX AND IT IS NOT PERFORM TO WHAT A V-8 POWERTRAIN OF 5.7 LT, AND 381 HORSE POWER SHOULD BE. THE ACCELERATOR ON THIS 2020 TUNDRA IS NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT WILL NOT ACCELERATE WHEN I STEP ON THE GAS PEDAL, WHICH ALMOST STALL BEFORE IT MOVES. IN ADDICTION, I OWNED A 2007 TUNDRA 4X4 CREWMAX AND THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE ACCELERATION PROBLEM. THE VIN# FOR MY NEW 2020 TUNDRA CREWMAX IS: [XXX]. I BELIEVE TOYOTA HAS INSTALLED THE ACCELERATOR INCORRECTLY OR THEIR FUEL PUMP IS NOT WORKING PROPERLY ON THIS NEW 2020 TUNDRA MODELS. REDACTED TO PROTECT PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *CC

WHEN WEATHER GETS WARM (100F+), IT WILL OFTEN TAKE A FEW SECONDS TO START THE CAR. IT CRANKS OVER, BUT WON'T CATCH. WHEN WEATHER GETS TO 110F, IT WOULD FAIL TO START AFTER IT HAS BEEN DRIVEN, THEN PARKED. WAIT 90 MINUTES, AND IT WOULD STARTS AGAIN. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE, BECAUSE WHEN WEATHER IS 110F+, IT IS VERY VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WAITING FOR A TOW TRUCK (THEY ARE USUALLY SUPER BUSY ON A HOT DAY) OR WAIT 90 MINUTES PLUS IN 110F+ WEATHER. TOYOTA HAS REFUSED TO FIX IT, AS THEY SAY THEY NEED TO WAIT FOR A 110F+ DAY TO DUPLICATE THE ISSUE,

Air conditioning compressor partially seizes if air conditioning is turned on while driving and when air conditioning knob is on at time engine is started. Makes very loud noise. When driving, and it occurs, truck will slow suddenly as if the brakes were applied until compressor engages. Dealer mechanic says it sounds like the compressor clutch engaging. Said nothing wrong. Have left truck with dealer several times and they say they cannot replicate the issue. I’ve recorded the sound several times and have played that to them. They hear it but say that they have to prove that is what is happening. They refuse to replace the compressor. Vehicle is not safe to drive when this happens. This has occurred since truck was purchased brand new.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2020 TOYOTA TUNDRA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING AT 6 MPH, AN ABNORMAL SOUND WAS HEARD COMING FROM THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO TOYOTA OF DEKALB (1890 SYCAMORE RD, DEKALB, IL 60115 (815) 748-7300) TO BE DIAGNOSED SAID IT WAS THE ABS ACUATOR. THE MECHANIC WAS UNABLE TO PROVIDE A CAUSE FOR THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED BUT NO FURTHER ASSISTANCE WAS PROVIDED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 800.*DT*JB

THE FRONT TURNING INDICATORS ARE TOO DIM FOR DAYTIME USE. I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CLOSE CALLS WITH VEHICLES NOT REALIZING MY INDICATOR WAS ON.

THE INTEGRATED BRAKE CONTROLLER WORKS INTERMITTENTLY. RECEIVE TWO ERRORS THAT STATE "TRAILER WIRING TYPE OR CONNECTION FAULT" AND "PRE-COLLISION SYSTEM MALFUNCTION". AFTER THE ERROR IS RECEIVED, THE TRAILER BRAKES NO LONGER FUNCTION. IF THE VEHICLE IS TURNED OFF AND ON AGAIN THE ERRORS GO AWAY AND THE BRAKES WILL FUNCTION AGAIN. THE PROBLEM SEEMS TO OCCUR MOST OFTEN WHEN USING THE MANUAL SWITCH ON THE CONTROLLER. BOTH TRUCK AND TRAILER ARE NEW (LESS THAN 6 MONTHS OLD). *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2020 TOYOTA TUNDRA. THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DRIVING AT 10 MPH, THE FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE WOULD NOT ENGAGE. THE CONTACT STATED WHEN TRYING TO ENGAGE THE FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE, THE VEHICLE WOULD MAKE A LOUD NOISE AND NOT ALLOW THE VEHICLE TO TURN. THE CONTACT STATED NO WARNING LIGHT WAS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT TAKEN TO A LOCAL DEALER OR INDEPENDENT MECHANIC FOR DIAGNOSIS OR REPAIRS. THE MANUFACTURER HAD NOT BEEN INFORMED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 3,000.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2020 TOYOTA TUNDRA. THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DRIVING AT LOW SPEEDS, HE STARTED TO HEAR AN ABNORMAL NOISE. THE CONTACT STATED NO WARNING LIGHT WAS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE LOCAL DEALER TOYOTA OF SANTA MARIA (700 EAST BETTERAVIA RD, SANTA MARIA, CA 93454, (805) 928-3881) WHERE THE MECHANIC WAS UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS INFORMED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 8.

UPON FILLING UP WITH FUEL AT VARIOUS FUEL STATIONS, WHEN THE PUMP SHUTS OFF AND IS REMOVED FROM THE FILLER NECK, FUEL BEGINS TO COME BACK OUT THE FILLER NECK AND POUR OUT ONTO THE VEHICLE AND GROUND. VEHICLE ONLY HAS 2000 MILES ON IT AND HAS DONE THIS FROM DAY ONE. THE SPILLS HAVE RANGED FROM A CUP FULL TO HALF A GALLON MAKING A HAZARDOUS AND POTENTIALLY DEADLY SITUATION. ANOTHER DEALER IN NM ADVISED SOME TOYOTA VEHICLES HAVE DONE THIS DUE TO A DEFECTIVE OVERFLOW VALVE IN THE FUEL TANK. MY LOCAL DEALER HAS HAD ME RETURN SEVERAL TIMES EVEN THOUGH I HAVE VIDEO EVIDENCE OF THE DEFECT. TOYOTA USA HAS ALSO NOT BEEN HELPFUL WITH TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

MY SON WAS DRIVING MY 2020 TOYOTA TUNDRA AND HE WAS TRAVELING APPROXIMATELY 30 MPH AND WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION AND FOR SOME REASON THE PRE COLLISION SYSTEM DID NOT ENGAGE AND STOP OR EVEN SLOW THE TRUCK DOWN HE SLAMMED INTO ANOTHER TRUCK AND THAT TRUCK WAS PUSHED INTO ANOTHER CAR LUCKILY NO ONE WAS HURT.

A DUMP TRUCK CAME OFF OF THE HIGHWAY AND MADE AN ILLEGAL TURN IN FRONT OF ME. HE CAUSED A FRONTAL IMPACT ON MY VEHICLE AND THE AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. I WAS TRAVELING 55 MPH WITH A TRAILER ATTACHED AND SLAMMED ON BRAKES BUT STILL IMPACTED HIM REALLY HARD. I WAS ON THE FEEDER OR FRONTAGE ROAD.

WE PURCHASED A BRAND NEW TUNDRA AND FROM THE MINUTE WE DROVE HOME THERE SEEMED TO BE A BOUNCE OR VIBRATION LIKE RUNNING OVER RUMBLE STRIPS IN THE FRONT END. WE THEN NOTICED THE BED WAS MOUNTED TO THE PASSENGER SIDE BY ABOUT A HALF AN INCH WHICH TO ME TELLS THEY DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD FINAL CHECK BEFORE IT LEFT THE FACTORY. WE TOOK IT TO THE SHOP AND THEY TRIED FOUR DIFFERENT TIRES AND THE MECHANIC STATED IT ACTUALLY MADE THE VIBRATION WORSE. EACH OF THREE TIMES IT WAS IN THE SHOP THAT THEY TRIED TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION THEY RE ALIGNED THE TRUCK. I WONDERED WHY EACH TIME WITHOUT MUCH DRIVING AND NO OFF ROAD DIVING IT WAS OUT OF ALIGNMENT THREE TIMES WITHIN ONE OR TWO MONTHS. AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC I HAD A CASUAL CONVERSATION WITH SAID IF THEY DON'T FIND AND FIX THE ACTUAL MECHANICAL PROBLEM SUCH AS A BAD CV JOINT IT WILL GO OUT OF ALIGNMENT AS SOON AS YOU DRIVE OUT OF THE SHOP. THE SAFETY ISSUE THAT MAKES IT VERY SCARY TO DRIVE IS THE TRUCK WANDERS OR FLOATS TO THE RIGHT WHILE DRIVING OR BRAKING AND AT TIMES WHEN BRAKING THE STEERING WHEEL TURNS RIGHT SEVERELY BY ITSELF WHILE THE TRUCK CONTINUES TO TRAVEL STRAIGHT. THE MORE YOU DRIVE AND THE WARMER EVERYTHING GETS THE WORSE IT GETS. IT WILL EVEN DRIFT RIGHT FROM THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD PROVING IT IS NOT DUE TO THE CROWN OF THE ROAD. IT WILL TRAVEL COMPLETELY RIGHT FROM THE FARTHEST POINT LEFT. THE SERVICE MANAGER STATED HE FELT WHAT WE WERE DESCRIBING BUT THAT IT MIGHT BE A CHARACTERISTIC OF THAT TRUCK AND WANTED SPECIALISTS FROM TOYOTA TO COME TO THE SHOP TO TRY TO LOCATE THE EXACT CAUSE RATHER THAN THROWING PARTS AT IT AND NEVER LOCATING THE ACTUAL PROBLEM. TOYOTA HAS NOT OFFERED ANY ASSISTANCE TO HIM OR US AS OF YET. WE CAN NOT DRIVE THIS TRUCK WITHOUT FEELING WE ARE IN DANGER. WE OWNED A 2015 TUNDRA PRIOR THAT HAD NO PROBLEMS AT ALL. UPON RESEARCHING WE ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE EXPERIENCING THESE EXACT ISSUES.

FRONT TURN SIGNAL BULBS ARE TOO DIM TO VIEW DURING DAYLIGHT OPERATION. THIS CREATES A VERY SERIOUS, AVOIDABLE ACCIDENT RISK WHILE ONCOMING TRAFFIC CANNOT CLEARLY OBSERVE TURN SIGNAL INDICATORS DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS.

I BOUGHT 2020 TOYOTA TUNDRA 1794, BLACK. I LOVE THIS TRUCK, BUT IT ANNOY ME WHEN EVERY TIME I START THE VEHICLE AND DRIVE ABOUT 15MILES/HOUR I HEAR AND FEEL A "CLUNK" SOUND UNDER THE FRONT DRIVE SIDE, AND FEEL IT ON THE GAS PEDAL. I HEARD THIS SOUND AFTER 5 DAYS SINCE I BOUGHT IT, I CALLED THE DEALER AND SET UP APPOINTMENT. I BROUGHT IT TO DEALER WHERE I BOUGHT IT, THEY CANNOT FIX IT. THAT PROBLEM BOTHERS ME ALL THE TINE. I DON'T KNOW THAT TO DO WITH IT.