2008 Saturn Outlook Visibility & Wipers Problems

The contact owns a 2008 Saturn Outlook. The contact stated that while driving at an undisclosed speed, the front windshield wiper failed to operate as needed. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic and diagnosed with windshield wiper motor failure. The contact was informed that the windshield wiper motor cover assembly needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure but provided no assistance. The contact related the failure to NHTSA Campaign Number: 15V609000 (Visibility) however, the VIN was not included. The failure mileage was 197,357.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE SUN ROOF LEAKED WHEN IT RAINED AND WATER ENTERED THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND REPAIRED TWICE, BUT THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE DEALER AND MANUFACTURER WERE NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE CAUSE OF THE FAILURE WAS NOT DETERMINED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 148,000.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. ON A RAINY DAY, THE CONTACT NOTICED THAT THE REAR MOON ROOF AND THE FRONT SUN ROOF WERE LEAKING WATER. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE REAR SUN ROOF WAS DETACHED AND CAUSED WATER TO LEAK INTO THE VEHICLE. IN ADDITION, WATER WAS LEAKING FROM UNDER THE DASHBOARD TO THE FLOORMAT. THE AIR BAGS SENSOR WAS CORRODED DUE TO THE WATER LEAKAGE FROM THE ROOF. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 86,000.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS FAILED TO WORK WITHOUT WARNING AND IMPACTED THE CONTACT'S VISIBILITY. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER WHO DIAGNOSED THAT THE WIPER LINKAGES FAILED AND THAT THE WINDSHIELD WIPER LINKAGES, THE WIPER CRANK ARM, AND THE DRIVER SIDE CRANK ARM NUT FAILED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 08V410000 (VISIBILITY). THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 60,000.

PLASTIC T CONNECTORS FOR WASHER FLUID NOZZLES HAVE BROKEN OFF LEAVING THEM TO SPRAY WASHER FLUID OVER THE ENTIRE ENGINE COMPARTMENT. WIPER ARMS HAVE INADEQUATE PRESSURE TO CREATE A CLEAN WIPING PATTERN WITH ANY BRAND OF WINDSHIELD WIPERS. THESE TWO PROBLEMS COMBINE TO CREATE A SERIOUS VISUAL IMPAIRMENT ESPECIALLY IN MISTING OR WET PAVEMENT SCENARIOS. *TR

AFTER THE VEHICLE SAT IN RAIN (SUN ROOF CLOSED OF COURSE), WATER WAS NOTICED RUNNING DOWN THE A PILLAR AND OUT THE SUNVISOR BRACKETS AND POOLING ON THE FLOOR. UPON INSPECTION, IT WAS NOTICED THAT WATER IS BUILDING UP IN THE SUNROOF BRACKET/FRAME AND OVERFLOWING INTO THE VEHICLE. IT'S LIKELY THE SUNROOF DRAIN CHANNELS ARE CLOGGED. *TR

I PURCHASED A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK XR. THE DEALERSHIP SWORE THEY COULD FIX THE SUNROOF LEAK. AFTER 10 WEEKS AND RELEASING IT BACK TO ME 4 DIFFERENT TIMES. THEY HAVE YET TO FIX THE ISSUE. MY CAR IS FLOODED EVERY TIME IT RAINS. *TR

SUNROOF LEAK: I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT GM HAS FAILED TO ISSUE A PROPER RECALL FOR THE ONGOING PROBLEM WITH LEAKY SUNROOFS! I CAN HEAR WATER "SWOOSHING AROUND" THE SUNROOF AFTER IT RAINS. IT HAS COMPLETELY DRENCHED MY WIFE (WHILE IN THE PASSENGER SEAT) AND IT LEAKS THROUGH THE AIRBAGS. I LITERALLY HAVE PUDDLES (ON THE DRIVER 'S SIDE) FLOOR IN MY VEHICLE AFTER IT RAINS! THE WATER LEAKING OUT WHILE DRIVING IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND POSSIBLE MOLD SPORES DEVELOPING IS A HEALTH ISSUE! PLEASE RECALL! *TR

SUNROOF DEFECT - HAVE OWNED VEHICLE SINCE OCT. 2010. NOV. 2013 WAS OUR FIRST SUNROOF LEAK, THINKING IT WAS A WINDSHIELD ISSUE. HAD THAT CHECKED OUT (AND, OF COURSE, CHARGED FOR A SEALING BY ABRA AUTO BODY), BUT A FEW WEEKS LATER, DEALERSHIP RAN THRU GARAGE CAR WASH AND HAD THE SAME PROBLEM OF LEAKING THRU SUNROOF, PASSENGER FRONT SIDE! THERE WAS DEFINITELY SOME WHOOSHING-WATER LIKE SOUNDS BEFORE THE FIRST FEW TIMES THE LEAK HAPPENED. THE DEALERSHIP CLAIMS TO HAVE CLEANED "DEBRIS" OUT OF THE TUBING MECHANISM. FIVE MONTHS LATER, THE LEAK IS BACK. NOT HAVING USED THE SUNROOF FOR MOST OF THAT TIME DUE TO WINTER, OF COURSE. FIRST REPAIR WHICH THE DEALERSHIP SAID THEY DID NOT REPAIR, BUT RATHER FIXED, WAS TO CLEAN OUT GUTTER/TUBING. NOW, MAY 2014 THE SAME ISSUE AND AGAIN, THEY CLEANED OUT TUBING AND PUT SOME SILICONE ON THE RUBBER GASKET AREA. WE REFUSED TO PAY FOR LABOR THIS TIME ($90) FOR THE SAME DEFECTIVE PROBLEM WHEN THE SUNROOF HADN'T BEEN USED. THE MANAGER RELUCTANTLY AGREED. IN ADDITION, THE MANAGER QUIZZED US WHETHER THE VEHICLE SAT INSIDE (99% INSIDE GARAGE) OR OUTSIDE. THIS SHOULD NOT MATTER. ALSO, SUGGESTED TOO NOT TO RUN IT THRU POWER CAR WASHES. WE DON'T MIND NOW HAVING TO CHECK TO KEEP "DEBRIS" OUT OF THE SUNROOF TRACK, BUT HAVE NEVER HAD THIS ISSUE WITH ANY OF OUR OTHER OLDER AND NEWER VEHICLES WITH SUNROOFS. WE HAVE ALREADY SUNK A LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS VEHICLE UNFORTUNATELY AND DON'T FEEL WE SHOULD HAVE TO YET AGAIN PAY FOR A DEFECTIVE DESIGN BY GM WHEN IT HAPPENS AGAIN WHICH IT WILL. I HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED AN EMAIL TO SATURN (CAC@SATURN.COM), GM (SOCIALMEDIA@GM.COM) AND WWW.SATURNFORUMOUTLOOK.NET. THE LATER IS HELPFUL IN THAT YOU ARE NOT ALONE WITH YOUR VEHICLE COMPLAINTS AND BATTLES. IN FACT, MANY AT THIS SITE HAVE BEEN CHARGED WELL OVER $500 TO REPLACE THE DEFECTIVE TUBING. SHAME ON GM! *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS SEPARATED WHILE HE DROVE IN THE RAIN AT UNKNOWN SPEEDS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED MECHANIC WHO FOUND THAT THE WINDSHIELD MOTOR LINKAGE BOLT SEPARATED DUE TO A DEFECTIVE BOLT. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER ADVISED THE VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED IN NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER 08V410000 (VISIBILITY). THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 91,000.

I TOOK THIS VEHICLE TO AN AUTOMATIC CAR WASH. ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH, WATER STARTED POURING INTO THE VEHICLE THROUGH THE OVERHEAD CONSOLE AND THE PASSENGER SIDE A PILLAR BECAUSE OF A LEAKING SUNROOF/MOONROOF. I UNDERSTAND FROM RESEARCH THAT THIS IS A REPEATED ISSUE WITH THESE VEHICLES, YET GM WILL NOT FIX THEM. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. I PAID $20K FOR THIS VEHICLE TWO MONTHS AGO AND I HAVE MADE ONE PAYMENT OF 72, AND NOW I FIND OUT THAT THE VEHICLE CAN NEVER GET WET OR THERE WILL BE PROBLEMS. *TR

MAJOR SUNROOF LEAK. WHENEVER IT RAIN I HAVE A STEADY STREAM OF WATER LEAKING INTO THE CAR AND CREATING A PUDDLE OF STANDING WATER ON MY PASSENGER FLOOR BOARD. HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH HENDRICK CHEVROLET AND THEY ARE ADMIT THAT I WILL HAVE TO PAY THE REPAIRS. *KB

AT AROUND 50K MY 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM STOPPED WORKING. THE AIR CONDITIONER WOULD NOT BLOW COLD AIR AT ALL. A LOCAL DEALERSHIP CLEANED AND SANITIZED THE SYSTEM AND CHECKED FOR LEAKS AND RE-FILLED WITH FREON. THE SYSTEM WORKED FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AS FAR AS BLOWING COLD AIR BUT NOT AS WELL AS BEFORE. I RETURNED THE CAR FOR THEM TO LOOK AT AGAIN, THEY USED A NEW MACHINE TO CHECK FOR LEAKS AND PRESSURE CHECKS, REFILLED WITH FREON AGAIN. THIS TIME IT WORKED FOR A DAY AND HAS NOT WORKED SINCE. AFTER THE SECOND TIME, I WAS INFORMED IT WAS A COMPRESSOR ISSUE AND IT WOULD BE AT LEAST $1000. THIS SEEMS EXTREMELY EARLY FOR AN AIR CONDITIONER TO GO OUT, IT WAS JUST OUT OF WARRANTY, OF COURSE. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WATER WAS LEAKING INTO THE VEHICLE FROM THE SUNROOF AND CAUSING THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM TO MALFUNCTION. THE PARKING BRAKE SIGNAL WOULD SPORADICALLY ILLUMINATE WITH A CHIMING NOISE. THE MANUFACTURER ADVISED THE CONTACT THAT A MANUFACTURER'S RECALL WAS CURRENTLY OUT FOR THE FAILURE BUT THE CONTACT'S VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 40,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 42,000. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE.

2008 SATURN OUTLOOK XR. HAS BEEN IN THE SHOP SEVEN TIMES OVER THREE YEARS FOR WATER LEAK. HAVE HAD SUNROOF SERVICED MULTIPLE TIMES, LEAKING BODY SEAM ALONG FIREWALL SUPPOSEDLY REPAIRED, ELECTRICAL SHORT CIRCUIT REPAIRED DUE TO WATER, FRONT CARPETS REPLACED. THE CARPETS ARE STILL WET AND THE VEHICLE IS STILL LEAKING. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHENEVER THERE WAS RAIN, WATER WOULD LEAK THROUGH THE CLOSED SUN ROOF AND ONTO THE FRONT DRIVER'S SIDE AIR BAG COMPARTMENT. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER WHERE THE SUN ROOF MODULE AND A SECOND UNKNOWN PART WAS REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE DEFECT. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 51,000.

WE NOTICED THAT WE WERE GETTING WATER IN THE CAR COMING FROM THE REARVIEW MIRROR. WE WERE FINDING WATER DRIPPING THROUGH SUNROOF AND GOING TO THE MUG BOX. WE NOTICED ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS ALSO: THE HEATING/COOLING MOTOR IN THE FRONT OF THE CAR STOPPED TO WORK AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT. THE BUTTONS FOR REAR WIPER DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE. THE WATER OVERFLOWS INTO THE CAR AND AFTER A RAINSTORM WE HAD 1.5 INCHES WATER BELOW DRIVER AND PASSENGER SEATS. I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL CUSTOMERS THAT HAD SIMILAR PROBLEMS WITH THE SUNROOF DRAINS. IT IS A POOR DESIGN THAT THE SATURN CORP. *TR

THE SUNROOF IS LEAKING WATER. HAD TO TAKE IT TO THE DEALER SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE THEY SAY THEY FIXED THE PROBLEM. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS FIXED. THIS ISSUE OF LEAKING SUNROOFS/ MOON ROOFS HAS CAUSED NUMEROUS PROBLEMS IN THE SAME MAKE/MODEL VEHICLES AND THE LEAKS CAUSED ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS, MOLD ETC. IN THESE VEHICLES. I WILL NOT DRIVE MY VEHICLE ON DAYS IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT RAIN FOR FEAR IT WILL LEAK AGAIN. AS I UNDERSTAND THIS PROBLEM CANNOT BE "FIXED" AND IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE MINE LEAKS AGAIN. MY VEHICLE ONLY HAS APPX 36000 MILES ON IT. I SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF DRIVING MY VEHICLE. I WANT MY MONEY BACK. *TR

PURCHASED PRE-OWED 2008 OUTLOOK IN NOV OF 2009. FIRST SUNROOF/MOONROOF LEAKS NOTICED IN SPRING OF 2010. DRAINS WERE "FIXED", BUT CONTINUE TO HAVE MOLDY MUSTY SMELL TO VEHICLE AFTER HEAVY RAINS AND DRIVER SEAT FEELS WET. OTHER PROBLEMS ENCOUNTERED WITH VEHICLE HAVE BEEN ENGINE CONTINUING TO RUN WITH KEY OUT, AIR BAG LIGHT ON, POWER STEERING PUMP FAILURE, REAR SPEAKERS ARE WATER DAMAGED, REAR AC HAS ALWAYS MALFUNCTIONED, MAIN AC IS NOW MALFUNCTIONING. NOT TO MENTION ALLERGIES SUFFERED FROM MOLD EXPOSURE. *TR

DURING A SNOW STORM MY WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOPPED WORKING. WENT TO DEALERSHIP AND WIPER LINKAGE BECAME DETACHED FROM MOTOR SHAFT CAUSING IT TO BECOME INOPERATIVE. *TR